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  • #16
    Originally posted by wjleong View Post
    As far as I know, some other data centers even offer $0.85/dedicated ip and they have no change their price until today.
    Bulk purchase should be much more cheaper than 1 by 1.
    Our wholesales price for 1 dedicated ip on sc hosting just $1.50,why you price us 2 decated ip which is DNS3 for $80? Not reasonable.
    Originally posted by wjleong View Post
    I have to remind you that, resellerclub offer DNS1 for exactly FREE. But you price us $20 for it.
    Originally posted by wjleong View Post
    For those who want anonymity, you have to pay $80 and as wmghori mention everybody also able to reveal us even you purchase DNS3.
    You should consider offer the DNS1 for free.
    wjleong, a pre-cooked steak costs a few bucks at a local deli store and can cost from a few dozen to a few hundred dollars at a restaurant and nobody finds this unusual. The analogy might be crude and imprecise, but just because a product or service sells for a certain price somewhere, it does not automatically mean that it should sell for the same or similar price elsewhere. The DNS clusters that we offer are an optional value added service that we think is worth its price. Since it is optional, if you think, it is not worth the price for you then you simply should not buy it.

    Originally posted by wjleong View Post
    Why don't keep the datacenter information instead of Liquidnet? On our templates there show our datacenter is in California, so it's reasonable for keeping the data center information.
    Originally posted by MacCheesy View Post
    With my cPanel account, all my IP's show the data center [Colo4Dallas] - not my reseller hosting provider. Makes perfect sense since the data center is actually providing the IP. That's the drawback about doing business here. There is no way to hide the fact that you are "reselling" for RP / LiquidNet, Ltd. Total anonymity is possible if RP wanted to give it.
    This thread explains why it is not possible. If MacCheesy’s current provider owns the datacenter where the servers are located as well, they could do so, otherwise they are failing to follow ARIN’s policy, as far as I can understand.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Milen View Post
      The DNS clusters that we offer are an optional value added service that we think is worth its price. Since it is optional, if you think, it is not worth the price for you then you simply should not buy it.
      I think you are no yet forget you always mention that you are working hard on reseller anonymity.But I don't think this is the way increase anonymity if you are not paying for it!

      DNS cluster is an optional value added service,mean if we are not taking this optional value added service,we have no anonymity.Isn't it?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by wjleong View Post
        DNS cluster is an optional value added service,mean if we are not taking this optional value added service,we have no anonymity.Isn't it?
        Let's look at this from a different perspective – a while ago there was no private DNS service option and you were complaining. Now there is and you are complaining again, because it is not quite what you have expected. We know, we can't please everyone, but unfortunately, it's a fact of life.
        Realistically speaking, how many prospective customers do you think check the DNS records of a web hosting provider? I would say that a lot less than 10% and think that it is a pretty safe bet. How many of those do an IP WHOIS of the DNS records? Probably less than 10% of the remaining, which I think again is a pretty safe bet. So, perhaps one in a hundred of prospective customers can reveal that you are a reseller based on DNS records. I think that is probably the last thing you need to worry about, especially if you are using a template-based site. This one percent of tech-savvy probably would not buy hosting from you in the first place.

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        • #19
          No problem with it!?

          I have no problems with moving to DNS 3 ... but I would have hope an update path was in place to move from DNS 2 to DNS 3 outside of the renewal period. I am now waiting 10 days for this upgrade to put in place on my account.

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          • #20
            I don't think DNS3 will really add more anonymity. I mean if you lookup the IP Addresses, they'll still be registered to LiquidNet (or maybe the data-center).

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Milen View Post
              Yes, the DNS 3 Package is intended to provide better reseller anonymity.
              well, i am not happy with the DNS Cluster,
              i have bought it from day 1.
              and the package i bought since then was package1,
              with one dedicated IP And one Shared.

              and today this package I mean 1 Before, is now package 2.
              and package 2 Before is now Package 3.

              that means you have changed the package without even telling your Resellers.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by syownet View Post
                I don't think DNS3 will really add more anonymity. I mean if you lookup the IP Addresses, they'll still be registered to LiquidNet (or maybe the data-center).
                Advantages may be spam/blacklisting related. Sometimes IP Addresses will be blacklisted on spam lists. But seeing as this is nameservers I can't see a name server causing anything that would blacklist it's IP Address. I'm not really sure what the advantage of dedicated IP's for nameservers are actually...

                I'd rather be able to setup my own shared IP address that could be used for all my clients websites, instead of having new clients use the shared IP addresses that everyone else uses.

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                • #23
                  or an IP group assignment that shows them as being under the reseller rather than LiquidNet...

                  I wonder if that's even possible...

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Tarek View Post
                    that means you have changed the package without even telling your Resellers.
                    Tarek, this is not true. All changes to private DNS packages were announced.

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                    • #25
                      Most cPanel programs work that way and when you have a dedicated server with more than one IP they are usually not associated with your host. Having the IP associated with the data center does not decrease your anonymity like seeing LiquidNet, Ltd. does.

                      I suggested this and other things to Nik back in November-December and he does not seem interested in allowing more anonymity for the free resellers. There is plenty they could do... if they wanted to.

                      Originally posted by Chameleon View Post
                      or an IP group assignment that shows them as being under the reseller rather than LiquidNet...

                      I wonder if that's even possible...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Chameleon View Post
                        or an IP group assignment that shows them as being under the reseller rather than LiquidNet...
                        I wonder if that's even possible...
                        I have given a link to a thread where Kalin explains why this is not possible on the second page of this thread.

                        Originally posted by MacCheesy View Post
                        Having the IP associated with the data center does not decrease your anonymity like seeing LiquidNet, Ltd. does.
                        MacCheesy, as far as I understand, your cPanel hosting provider is violating ARIN policies by doing this, unless they own the data center as well.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Milen View Post
                          I have given a link to a thread where Kalin explains why this is not possible on the second page of this thread.
                          Thanks Milen, was only wondering if it was possible, I wasn't putting it forward as a suggestion.

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                          • #28
                            Thanks Milen for your comments =).

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                            • #29
                              Much like the IP address for sc38, the IP's that I have are listed as being with the data center... not the cPanel hosting provider.

                              Originally posted by Milen View Post
                              MacCheesy, as far as I understand, your cPanel hosting provider is violating ARIN policies by doing this, unless they own the data center as well.

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